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FAKE GOTHS


   You see children, these horrible little beings reproduce at an incredible rate, fueled by a mixture of Hot Topic and Marilyn Manson. If they are not stopped the gothic subculture and music itself will be forgotten. It is already taking a beating by everyone who mocks it out of ignorance. They make fun of it because they have never known what true goth is and their perceptions are blurred by what these little 'I-hate-the-world-because-mommy-doesn't-love-me-enough' teenagers are portraying. They will no longer be allowed to use this label.

   You'll notice I simply refer to goth as 'it' and don't list specific examples. Before you attempt to spam me and complain (you can, but I assure you it won't spoil my night) I will say now that I do this to protect what this wiki stands for: REVEALING THE FALSE. Now, if I were to give them a hint or ground for their claims that would ruin this whole self-righteousness I have filled myself with.



NOTICE:
Well, well, [Nymphette]. It's nice to know that your copy and paste skills aren't lacking.
When asked what goth was, as she claims she is in her profile (and all those that say they are goth, upon joining must explain what it is), she gave me a beautiful little explanation. I thought something was wrong with it though, as can be seen below in the wiki page containing it. I did a search to find out if my suspicions were correct, and they were.

http://www.ice-princess.net/gothwhat.html
Look familiar, Nymphette?
For being a cunt, you have been removed. I don't want whining either. You fucked up, not me.
Liar FG


Banners are up. Stick one in your house and show your support, douche and/or join the member list.
Fake Goth Banners
FG Members


And speaking of this:
The following fake goths need to remove our banner. You won't avoid ridicule by pretending to be a member. In fact, you'll be ridiculed even more.

[Stormy101]
[GeshemYehod]
[samantha louise!]


Originally this was a dear little list of Elftown members who are 'Fake Goths'. Now, as this appears to have become a problem with the number of reports sent to the guards, the list has been deleted and this will now serve as a forum to discuss this ongoing problem. Apparently people don't appreciate having their accounts violated. Ah, well. Either way, this wiki will continue as before, just without the list.

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ATTENTION:

Temporary notice!
As [cuntstitches] is no longer able to devote her time to tending to her dear wiki, I [Lost in Illusions] have volunteered to take over for the time being.
That's right.
I'm the new master.
Bow down, bitches.
=3

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2004-10-27 [Lost in Illusions]: if I had the time, Id just buy a bunch of PVC, leather, and poly-blends for cheap and make my own shit... but alas, school takes up 24/7 of my time.

2004-10-27 [SeraphicDeviltry]: i buy the quality material for cheap and go to my taylor to saw my own designs =) total fun! btw hello everyone, been a while since i was last here...

2004-10-27 [SeraphicDeviltry]: did anyone notice [undertow] has the banner up and is not a member? or am i mistaken?

2004-10-29 [jenoclone1]: yup he does

2004-10-29 [Lost in Illusions]: I could sew (though only amateur) my own clothes, but it sucks that I have no time or money for material

2004-10-31 [Rana]: You guys, just sort of a note on cuttings - it's just something some people do who have problems. It's not a thing about being stupid. Kind of like Existence is Futile is saying, that's the idea. . .

2004-10-31 [2 Lost Souls Swimming in a Fish Bowl]: new topic..What do you think of "Columbine- like" kids? should they be tried as adults? (dont ask me why I changed the topic >.>...)

2004-10-31 [HiddenFire]: Chances are, if they are psychotic enough to do such a thing, they will be impossible to rehabilitate, so yeah. There are other situations where this shouldn't be done. But you would be suprised at how many children are being tried as adults. As far as my father is concerned they should get adult punishments for adult crimes. *shrugs*

2004-10-31 [spongemonkey]: I think that if they're going to do that, they can probably think as an adult (even if its a demented one) so, yeah, tried as adults.

2004-11-01 [Lost in Illusions]: in South Carolina, 17 is the age of maturity. You will be tried as an adult in any type of crime you commit, no matter what. I think that's completely stupid; 17 y/o's cant smoke, drink, vote, etc. so why the hell should they be tried as adults if they commit something even as small as a misdemeanor? Oy, the government system is screwing up big time.

2004-11-01 [HiddenFire]: Not to mention that at 18 you can vote and decide the fate of your country, you can serve in the military and die for your country, but you're not smart enough to drink alchohol yet. Who thought that one up? and why are we so stupid? *shrugs* The government is screwd up, period.

2004-11-01 [Lost in Illusions]: I think the drinking age should be lowered to something like 16. Younger people drink only because they think they cant, and they know it's illegal. They do it to rebel, so if we lowered the age, yes, people would still be drinking at 16, but there would be a lot less people drinking just for the sake of rebelling. This was actually the thesis of an A paper I wrote ^_^ I smart.

2004-11-01 [HiddenFire]: My parents let me drink and smoke when I was young. They just told me not to do it in public or behind their backs. I could do it as much as I wanted as long as they where there. Guess what? I don't drink or smoke. It's not that big of a deal. Why is that? Because they didn't make it a big deal. I was content with second hand smoke and the occasional drink... granted I don't like beer, I'm all about wiskey, burbon, tequilla, etc... Alchoholism also runs in the family (on both sides) so I'm a little leary of it. I don't want to turn into a social drinker... becuase I am normally a very shy person, but I get... overly "friendly" when under the influence. @.@

2004-11-01 [Avoral]: Yeah, it's about the same here. I drink responsibly mostly because I was allowed to do it. Even so, I didn't drink until I was 18, even though it wouldn't have mattered. But hey, nothing wrong with social drinking, as long as you're not drinking with a bunch of stupid kids who think it makes them "cool." "Overly friendly"... Hehehe...

2004-11-01 [HiddenFire]: I also get pretty silly. Though I think I do so more because I then have an excuse instead of actual intoxication... In reality I would liken it to a sugar buzz, being the most alchohol has ever done to me. I feel warm all over and more open, silly, and perhaps a little hyper. Odd how a depressant can make me hyper... I think it's the ADD... stimulants and depressants work with inverse effects on us. Then of course there is the "overly friendly" aspect of it... which might not be too bad. My fear is that I might begin to drink to loosen up... so that I kike myself better when I'm under the influence... that could lead to problems.

2004-11-01 [HiddenFire]: now that I live in studnet housing the Nazi bastards won't let anyone in student housing have alchohol anywhere near the appartments. Not even if you are old enough to drink. It's bullshit!

2004-11-01 [Avoral]: Yeah, I know how that goes, the whole ADD thing. Caffeine makes me all wilty and whatnot. But really, alcohol doesn't give me the whole "sugar-buzz" effect. Perhaps you should practice just sort of simmering down, not being excited or anything like that while you're intoxicated. Or maybe take a few more shots... Hehe... Oh, and that's what house parties are for. Just find some connections, and all will be peachy.

2004-11-01 [HiddenFire]: the problem is that I would need a few drinks in me before I would even consider going to such a place... not being much of a people person. LOL

2004-11-03 [Lost in Illusions]: I love to drink, but not because it's "cool" I drink to forget about the stupidity of the world around me. When Im drunk, Im carefree and havent a worry at that moment, and it feels great. I wish I had some vodka right about now... to get my mind off of this nerve-wrecking election b/t Bush and Kerry... argh. >< I want to move to England where they have a monarchy... they've had the same leader for over 60 years, and they have the best economy in the world (aside from Japan... but I cant speak Japanese! ><)

2004-11-03 [Mitsune]: Japan's Economy unfortunately is declining... just like their population...

2004-11-03 [Lost in Illusions]: I dont keep up with world affairs... Im just looking at track records... in 2 and 1/2 (the whole Afghanistan Terrorist thing...) wars, England has remained neutral, and helped those that needed help. They have had the same queen for almost 60 years, and the taxes, laws, and regulations have hardly changed. Whereas the US gets a new president practically every four years because of ignorant sheep who just vote for who people tell them to; listening to nothing but propaganda and lies about the opponents - while our newly elected President bans every morale and integrity that this country was built on. Case in point: Bush tries to pass an amendment stating that the legalization of same-sex

2004-11-03 [Lost in Illusions]: (cont.) marraiges is hereby banned. Next thing you know, same-sex relationships will end up becoming illegal, causing almost 1/3 of America to panic because, though they've lived peacefully in the US for however long they've been alive, their way of love is suddenly illegal and they are being taken under arrest. My God, how stupid is that? Yes, the Bible supposedly says that homosexuality is immoral, but this isnt a question of morality, it's a question of freedom and peaceful civilization. If Bush continues to denounce most of everything that this country is founded on, we're looking at a very dim future.

2004-11-03 [HiddenFire]: HF Gay Marriage pretty much sums up my opinion on the matter. Homosexuality used to be illegal, they used to be arrested if they weren't simply beaten to death. Until recently, and still in some states, sodomy is illegal which is a little loophole they can use to prosecute gay men. It's the stupidest thing. >.<

2004-11-03 [Lost in Illusions]: personally, I could give less than a shit if people of the same gender wish to marry. It's their business, and I dont mind if that's what they want. To me, a piece of paper isnt going to change any of the love or affection I have for my partner, be he male. However, the whole illegalization of homosexuality is plain stupid. It's like people are saying "LIKE GIRLS OR WE'RE GON' BEAT YOU!!" like they're trying to force people to love the opposite gender, just because it's what is stated in the Bible and socially acceptable. Ban gay marriage.. fine; just dont make it so people of the homosexual population are scared to even walk out their doors and getting arrested.

2004-11-03 [HiddenFire]: Like I said, homosexuality used to be illegal. I don't think we're going backwards any time soon. Usually it takes a bit more time that what little has passed. What I try to imply in HF Gay Marriage is mostly that to ban homosexuality or gay marriage for any reason would seriously cut into EVERYONE'S rights. If we pander to one religion, we're looking for touble, because all the other religions are going to be flooding the government demanding that their beliefs be honored as well. Not to mention that it could go as far as the government telling you just how much you're allowed to enjoy sex, what is and is not a deviant sexual practice... etc...

2004-11-03 [Lost in Illusions]: I completely agree... that's why I spoke about England... look what having one leader has done to them.. sure they're not the most stable country in the world, but they are definitely more stable than this piece of shit country in which we live. Why cant people just live and let live?

2004-11-03 [HiddenFire]: The reason why are government is like it is is because we don't want a dictator. We wanted a democracy. Unfortunately democracy comes with a few problems, one of which being that we are so slow to change that we can't adapt. It's just the nature of the game. *shrugs* Honestly, I like communism... too bad there aren't enough genuinely good people to make one work. @.@

2004-11-04 [Keii]: [Maria*Malice]

2004-11-04 [sophomoric]: Communism always fails because those who are in power have no desire to relinquish it. I support socialism, so everyone can live a good life.

2004-11-05 [Avoral]: Communism isn't meant for human beings. As long as human nature exists, one cannot live in a Communist society.

2004-11-05 [HiddenFire]: That was my point. Only perfect people could produce a perfect Communism. Or any government for that matter... communism more so.

2004-11-05 [Avoral]: Yeah. I mean, at least capitalism caters to the corruption and greed in human beings, right? ^_^

2004-11-06 [Spanakopida]: [Susanisonfire] Not really a fake goth, just hypocrytical.

2004-11-07 [QueenShell]: OM'G'! [Your Crying Dollie] made me laugh so hard I got a cramp in my left side (well, excaggeration (sp?) brings up the meaning, right?)

2004-11-07 [SeraphicDeviltry]: i might exaggerate all the same XD

2004-11-07 [Spanakopida]: um...pickles?

2004-11-07 [QueenShell]: No, thank you. I don't like pickles ... They don't have a very soothing taste. But I do like sweet peppers, thank you =D

2004-11-08 [Spanakopida]: I'm sorry I'm so lame -_-

2004-11-08 [SeraphicDeviltry]: nah you're ok ;P

2004-11-08 [SeraphicDeviltry]: [amalie] just the labelling got me, i didn't look at her whole house

2004-11-08 [Delladreing]: "Pagan Metalhead Hippie Gliter Goth"....................methinks i may have found a playgan, i could be wrong tho..........

2004-11-08 [SeraphicDeviltry]: hahaha i never thought about that one..

2004-11-08 [Delladreing]: hmmm i dont know if she is or not, its just the way she "labeled" herself that makes me suspicious

2004-11-08 [SeraphicDeviltry]: i found it funny how she just labelled herself like it's such a normal thing and was all blunt about it. maybe you should try talking to her... but that wouldn't reveal anything, would it?

2004-11-08 [Delladreing]: lol you never know it might do. but im not sure. in a christian sense her not being baptised makes her a pagan and infidel sort of thing, but from a pagan aspect it does not, it just means shes not been baptised

2004-11-08 [SeraphicDeviltry]: just start by asking her that...

2004-11-08 [Delladreing]: hmmm meh ill do it later

2004-11-08 [Keii]: Hmm... I don't know about this one - she's a little confusing.

2004-11-08 [Delladreing]: i know....hmm

2004-11-08 [Spanakopida]: "casually drops the fact that it's her birthday into conversation"

2004-11-08 [WitchBaby]: would someone explain "fake goth" for me? just courious..I mean, if someone wore black and red, listened to marilyin manson, all the clishès, but never actually called themselves a goth.. would you still bite their head off? ;)

2004-11-08 [Keii]: Happy Birthday [Spanakopida]!

2004-11-08 [Keii]: Agh... *bands head on computer desk* How many bloody times?! When was the last good explination of a fake goth? It'd save alot more time if we could just shove a page number at whoever asks!

2004-11-08 [Leara]: I second that. I'm tired of having to explain it multiple times.

2004-11-08 [Spanakopida]: Maybe we should just put it at the top of the wiki or something, so people stop asking.

2004-11-09 [Spanakopida]: [i bleed 4 the blood 666] has our banner up.

2004-11-09 [Spanakopida]: and so does [-.-]

2004-11-09 [WitchBaby]: Ah well, I guess I expected you to be all patronizing about it.. And yes, a page number or complete description _would_ be nice, that way maybe I understand what you're talking about instead of just thinking you're whining about people who wear black and red, like I do now. You seem passionate about this "lets show people the true goth" thing. Ok, here I am, head open for the knowledge! Prove to me you're not just being arrogant!

2004-11-09 [Keii]: I've never whined about people wearing red and black... actually that's what I've got on now ;) (and no, your not going to get a serious conversation out of me at the moment, I'm too damn tired - I hate presentations >.<)

2004-11-09 [WitchBaby]: Hehe that's ok, I just hope someone will explain this to me sometime or other.. Or at least show me someplace where I can find it out on my own. Looking through 300+ pages of comments doesnt tempt me too much at the moment ;)

2004-11-09 [Keii]: Hehe, yeah - I know the feeling.

2004-11-09 [Keii]: I don't think you'd have much luck anyway, even if you did search through all the comments - each member generally has their own version of what a 'fake goth' is.

2004-11-09 [WitchBaby]: yea, I'm starting to see that.. Ok, so instead fo explaining fake goth.. maybe someone could explain real goth?

2004-11-09 [SeraphicDeviltry]: that varies as well =)

2004-11-09 [Keii]: *nods* It does - so, why don't we get around this a different way (instead of the we describe our views), you tell us what you think a goth is, and then we can tell you what we think

2004-11-09 [WitchBaby]: Aw man, I was afraid you'd ask me that ;) Dark clothes, nifty makeup, medieval dresses, graveyards, edgar allan poe.. fascination with the darker aspects of humanity. And Manson ;) Haha just kidding.. Well, thats' what I could come up with at the moment, please correct me if I'm wrong :)

2004-11-09 [Spanakopida]: Sorry, we already tried that. Doesn't work. The only real description of "goth" is a Germanic tribe that invaded Rome during the Christain era. that and a type of arcetecture (can't spell...arg)

2004-11-09 [Deirdre O'Kelly]: Goth is an opinion; there is no defining it. Perception is nine-tenths reality, and people can be quite delusional.

2004-11-10 [Grey Eyes]: I'd say you're "goth" if you're not dressing like it just to fit in or make someone liek you =/

2004-11-10 [Spanakopida]: it's a sub/counterculture.

2004-11-10 [Grey Eyes]: and it is also a very good question...I'm not a goth...and I'm not a poser...so what does it make me?

2004-11-10 [Spanakopida]: I'm a hominid.

2004-11-10 [Grey Eyes]: I'm probably a nobody XD

2004-11-10 [Spanakopida]: you're a hominid.   OMFGILABELED!!1!

2004-11-10 [Grey Eyes]: I'm going to make up my own stereo-type =D I am officially the first and only "Zyacore" Who wants to join? ^^

2004-11-10 [Spanakopida]: oh! me!! what is it?

2004-11-10 [Grey Eyes]: I dunno, I took the word "Zy" from a sacred entity in my novel. Zy are mysterious creatures that appear to be good but are actually the exact reaincarnation of sin, they appear to be angels, but their knowledge is lethal. Their power is unlimited, but they only unleash it under command of a human. Tehy are compassionate but can not love. They are cruel but cannot hate. To kill one is a sin, but to let it live is sin. They serve humans of just hearts, but what does it make? There is no equal for what they are, and one cannot say whether they are good or bad, for is sin actually evil? ...yeah that was cheesy =D and poetic...kinda ^^

2004-11-10 [Grey Eyes]: So basically we are an unknown mysterious breed ^^

2004-11-10 [Leara]: O.O I like that. I wanna know more. They sound interesting.

2004-11-10 [Grey Eyes]: XD yay! Someone likes it! Well, they tempt humans without meaning to...yet purposefully at the same time. With their good intentions they bring bad happenings. They are actually very naive, and it's kinda freaky, because they get vengefully jealous. So...if you piss it off...it's like waking up and seeing this cute little girl hovering over your bed with a knife. Yeah...

2004-11-10 [Leara]: O.O Do you have any of that story wrote out and online?

2004-11-10 [Grey Eyes]: In my book something happens that kills them all...but not permanetly. They are sealed in a land of ice, where they are imobile. But they talk to eachother through brain waves which sounds like cracks in the air. The realm is a mental state, yet it is made physical by thought. And they can sense your presence though they can't see you. And you hear them whisper, and they can kill you with focused mind energy if they don't like you. These three kids want to bring one to life...so they can kill all the people that made their lives hell...so...they do math and stuff and learn that a great act of sin must occur to open the gateway portal to the realm...it's freaky

2004-11-10 [Grey Eyes]: uuh, no not yet I don't. But as soon as I figure out that elftown test I'm going to put up a few chapters of it ^^ Thank you for your support! It makes me feel confident =D

2004-11-10 [Leara]: I like prettyful evil type characters. ^^

2004-11-10 [Grey Eyes]: Yeah, I wish I could give you a copy of the first chapter. It's really odd and I'd like feedback. the way I typed the book was weird. Half of it is the thoughts of a particular Zy, which is amungts the main characters. And randomly it'll go into third person o__o;;

2004-11-10 [Leara]: O.O You might wanna look into that.

2004-11-10 [Grey Eyes]: I shall

2004-11-10 [WitchBaby]: I'm still confused.. But at least now I know what a Zyacore is Ô.o

2004-11-10 [Keii]: Sounds good Mistress Cookie. ^^ If you ever get it up on the net, could you send me a link?

2004-11-10 [SeraphicDeviltry]: ooooo lovely!! you have a great imagination Mistreww Cookie =) strangely those Zy people remind me of myself O.o i could join you in being a Zyacore :)

2004-11-10 [Spanakopida]: You're WRONG mistress! that's not what's being zyacore is all about! You are such a poseur!

2004-11-10 [Spanakopida]: That's it, I'm forming my own stereotype. and it hates your stereotype.

2004-11-11 [Grey Eyes]: o____o;; Yay for compliments =D I shall send linkes if I ever get it up ^^ as for you Aralle...may your pillow be filled with yougurt =)

2004-11-11 [Spanakopida]: not yogurt! o_o

2004-11-11 [Grey Eyes]: Yes...the yogurt...in fact...the most yogurtiest yogurty yogurt...*laughs insanely* ....but I mean it in the best way possible =D

2004-11-11 [Spanakopida]: <twitch>

2004-11-11 [Grey Eyes]: If there was a Zombie Apocalyps and you weren't one of the special people that got to live, how would you die? =D take my POLL!!

2004-11-13 [spongemonkey]: yummmmm... cookie...

2004-11-13 [SeraphicDeviltry]: [StupidHellKat] "I'm a bi, Wiccan, mostly-goth, hippie artist" mmmm..... new prey....

2004-11-13 [2 Lost Souls Swimming in a Fish Bowl]: hehe,,fun fun

2004-11-14 [sophomoric]: Something to marvel at/giggle/not care about: <img:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/Sophomoric/partay-for4.gif>

2004-11-14 [2 Lost Souls Swimming in a Fish Bowl]: thats pretty cool. who is it? and how the fuck do you make a gun out of tape and a paperclip??

2004-11-14 [Spanakopida]: who is that? o_o

2004-11-14 [sophomoric]: That's me making fun of myself. It's pretty simple... you get bored... aaand... you stay bored...

2004-11-14 [2 Lost Souls Swimming in a Fish Bowl]: yeah I think I know how you feel, even though I dont go to catholic school. But If you can't make fun of yourself, then you're a pretty fucking sad excuse for a human being..0.o

2004-11-14 [sophomoric]: nah... just exceptionally uptight... or sensitive... or both.

2004-11-14 [2 Lost Souls Swimming in a Fish Bowl]: well, then where's the fun in life if you can't make fun of yourselves? god damn colds, uh anyway..I just hate it when people are uptight like that. gr..I could rant about this all night but I put it in my diary instead

2004-11-14 [sophomoric]: heh... I used to be really really really uptight... thank god for moving.

2004-11-14 [2 Lost Souls Swimming in a Fish Bowl]: Where'd you move to? and you think you used to be uptight? I was very disturbed a month ago. I was so stupid that my antic was in our local newspaper. dont believe me?>>> http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041026/REPOSITORY/410260355/1001

2004-11-14 [Spanakopida]: o_o

2004-11-14 [2 Lost Souls Swimming in a Fish Bowl]: o__0 I like faces!

2004-11-14 [sophomoric]: I moved all over North America.

2004-11-14 [Spanakopida]: [punkgothchick] has our banners up.

2004-11-14 [Rambert]: Yeah, no fake goths allowed here! I myself openly admit to not being a goth, and never wanting to pretend to be one! I don't need eyeliner and black clothes to solve my problems.

2004-11-14 [sophomoric]: mrr... stupid... stupid people... I'll just say she has it coming.

2004-11-14 [cuntstitches]: Yes. I'm currently kicking her ass verbally via elftown messages.

2004-11-14 [sophomoric]: I find it hard to believe whether or not you can kick someone's ass in a battle of wits... if they have none.

2004-11-14 [Spanakopida]: I asked her to take them down...

2004-11-14 [Spanakopida]: [rikimaru99202] Has them up.

2004-11-14 [Spanakopida]: and so does [Indigo Butterfly] and [JacquliynnElaine]

2004-11-14 [HiddenFire]: You could simply search the house descriptions for the urls of the banners with ET's search feature.

2004-11-14 [Spanakopida]: you can do that? HOSHITYOUARESMARTKTHXBAI.

2004-11-14 [Leara]: [the sic-ass juggalo] on Elfpack has the banner up... O.O

2004-11-14 [Davorah]: heh...fools... one day they will all grow up, and realise that if they're going to sit around and bitch and moan and cry about bullshit then they might as well put in an lifetime-application to walmart or any fast food restaurant... They will be so caught up in themselves that when the world ends they wont even notice b/c 'johnny' or 'bob' or -fill in the blank with generalized name- won't like them b/c they don't wear as much white make-up or black eyeliner as the next fool...(and the guys feel the same way too...) </rant>

2004-11-14 [Davorah]: lol I'm just a little angry bitch today aren't I...X3

2004-11-16 [~AbraKaDagger~]: I think the number of fake goths are growing.. it's really sad and disturbing really.. I mean, goddamn! can people not see how fuckin' stupid they act when theyre trying so hard to be something theyre not?? jeesh.. yeah, I was in the grocery store the other day and this chick started bitchin' at her mom because her mom asked her to please go get two gallons of milk.. yeah, she started sayin' shit like I always have to do everything! you and him hate me! (she pointed to what I guess was her dad) and she was makin' such a complete jackass of herself.. and she had the whole ""goth"" look thing down.. with the horribly dyed black hair &painted nails and outlined eyes.. meh, I'll shut up now =/

2004-11-16 [Panda-monium]: Ots an Epidemic!!! *runs around wildly, flailing arms*

2004-11-16 [~AbraKaDagger~]: *has convulsions* wow.. I need to start talking in here again =/

2004-11-16 [Keii]: Hmm... I don't know. I don't think it's growing - sometimes it seems like it's shrinking a little. But then that might just be me... I don't really pay that much attention to them anymore.

2004-11-16 [HiddenFire]: That's just a stupid little kid. Odd how that works. It was just two gallons of milk! What a lazy little bitch! Also I thought it was learned early on that you are not the center of the universe. the statement "you allways make me do everything" is one of the most ignorant things a person can say. What a spoiled little brat. That's what happens when parents buy their kids all that crap they don't need. That kid could use a good old fassioned dose of poverty. I think I was only that pretensious for a few years of my life... when I was very young. I got over that quick. It's so much easier to just go grab the damn milk!

2004-11-16 [SeraphicDeviltry]: *sigh* stupidity.... all around.... i hate people like that. isn't she aware that that woman carried her in her body for a whole damn 9 months and then did most likely her best to raise her up? *shakes head*

2004-11-17 [~AbraKaDagger~]: I know for real! I wanted to burn her toes so bad! >.< OOOO! *goes to paranormal dohickler* o.o

2004-11-17 [56fgghf9hgf]: Hey, so is this where I come to make fun of the Mansonites?

2004-11-17 [spongemonkey]: lol, yup.

2004-11-17 [Davorah]: Noooo...LOL! I found out on monday that there are worse people than the little goth fools...LOL! I went to a concert at the Orphium in Ybor and the line was packed with "cliche' punks" Oh my god...did my eyes ever hurt...LOL! For one thing they were all wearing black and allof them had the same short black hair that goes over the eyes (the guys AND the girls!!!) AND the (I wouldnt say 'fat') but 'pudgy' girls were wearing tight ass black shirts and tight low rise denim jeans that showed their plumbers cracks hardcore!!! >.< WTF!!!! Thats soooo fucking gross!!!

2004-11-17 [Davorah]: Yeah more power to the chicks that don't care what their wieght is, but seriousely, wear clothes that look good on you...not on someone else...you know what I mean?! LOL! I know I was the "non-conformist" of the lot, b/c I had on my black and white plaid pants and a white undershirt (not a wife-beater, the sleaved undershirt kind =P) and my hair is LOOOOONG and its blonde and I've got three inches or more of brown hair at the roots! (Oh no! someone shoot me for not keeping up with my hair!! >.<) LOL! all the chicks looked like Kelly Osborne, and the guys looked like the pase` band guys nowadays...which sucks b/c I hate waif thin guys and that was the lot of them... >.<

2004-11-17 [Davorah]: I was too grossed out at the guys to hit on any... >.< bleck! Hopefully the Co&Ca concert coming up is a little better...I know all kinds of people that like their music...not just kelly osborne and Manson look-a-likes... >.< </rant> LOL!I do rant a lot on this wiki dont I? o_O sorry stitch...>.<

2004-11-17 [SerenityBug]: [Dark lilly of grace]... You think she wants sympathy?

2004-11-17 [Davorah]: thanks! LOL! she was breaking the UAR and I yelled at her for it! ^_^ (she may WANT sympathy, but she looks like she needs a bath...>.<)

2004-11-17 [Davorah]: oh and for a 'punk' she sure as hell looks like shes not...lol

2004-11-17 [spongemonkey]: moo?

2004-11-17 [Davorah]: no moo here Sponge...sorry...:/ The cows are asleep...

2004-11-17 [spongemonkey]: ohhhhh. *sits down*

2004-11-17 [Davorah]: *nods* we need to be quiet so they dont startle awake and curdle their milk... o_O

2004-11-17 [cuntstitches]: Speaking of quasi-punks, I went to the Casualties and Lower Class Brats show last night. There were two little "punks" with their happening hot topic clothing. They left not too long after the show started. No one would talk to them.

2004-11-17 [spongemonkey]: lmao, that doesnt suprize me.

2004-11-17 [~AbraKaDagger~]: :X sons of bitches, I know!! I hate those little punkymunks too! BURN THEM! holy shit! they look so fuckin dumb! but they think theyre nifty and unique looking EWW! o.o

2004-11-17 [spongemonkey]: chisrt, have you ever actually tried to talk to one of them abou any real goth art or music? its like talking to a wall.

2004-11-19 [SeraphicDeviltry]: those people should be eliminated. Hitler might have had a point... we shall kill all those idiots XD

2004-11-19 [Lost in Illusions]: well, the idea that Hitler had, being that of genocide and eliminating a certain societal group, was actually rather smart. The fact that he chose to make it a race of people simply because of his despise was not so great.

2004-11-19 [SeraphicDeviltry]: yeah, all we have to do is change the target :P Hitler was a smart man even though his actions cannot be justified in any way.

2004-11-19 [Lost in Illusions]: well, the actions he decided to use does not measure his brilliance. True, he was stupid and maniacal, but his plans for a better world were ingenious

2004-11-20 [Grey Eyes]: I don't like it when those little "punks" come up and say I'm a poser...it's really stupid. I personally prefer the pretty medieval stuff...and they have their modern baggy black pants with buckles and stuff. It's funny cause' I'm more "goth" than them...cause' I'm German! =D

2004-11-20 [~AbraKaDagger~]: I'M GERMAN! and Native American.. but mostly German! but yeah.. I love the medieval stuff.. also I love baggy pants, no matta da cola, yo' O.o (I dont know why I randomly started talkin like that..) but yeah! <.< MmmHmm!

2004-11-20 [Davorah]: o_O ...thats my answer...and its justified...LOL! X3

2004-11-20 [Keii]: My sister is German.... I'm from little old Whitby myself. I love all the medieval stuff as well, especially the boots.

2004-11-20 [SeraphicDeviltry]: ooo medieval stuff *drools and dies*

2004-11-20 [~AbraKaDagger~]: *performs burial for Seraph.. 'cause the death happened justifully* <.< O.o?

2004-11-20 [SeraphicDeviltry]: justifully? what do you mean?

2004-11-20 [Grey Eyes]: I just find it overly funny that they call me a poser...cause even though I'm not goth...I'm more of one than they are XD

2004-11-22 [Lost in Illusions]: mideival stuff is great. I love the clothes, the weaponry, it's very unique... of course, everything back then was handmade and Im a sucker for originality.

2004-11-22 [Shadow serpenz]: midevil weapons rule

2004-11-22 [SeraphicDeviltry]: i just love the clothes... also archery...

2004-11-22 [~AbraKaDagger~]: archery's nifty! and jousting is cool to watch.

2004-11-22 [SeraphicDeviltry]: i have just taken a few classes on it in school. it's the best sport that i have ever done! i'm looking forward to finding a place where i can do it outisde of school...

2004-11-22 [~AbraKaDagger~]: oooo, that's cool... my sister's all into archery.. she's quite badass at it, if I may say so

2004-11-22 [SeraphicDeviltry]: i wish i was too... but i guess i'm not that bad heheh.. i feel really stupid when i get all excited after watching movies or reading books with medieval themes.. i really get worked up lol.. i should've lived back then..

2004-11-22 [SeraphicDeviltry]: [THE 1ST SEX GOD] just that the name seemed interesting..

2004-11-22 [~AbraKaDagger~]: LOL!! yeah, I know whatcha mean! but it's so cool to be like that.. I think O.o *clicks on the dude*

2004-11-22 [~AbraKaDagger~]: *blinks* wow... damn, I did click on the HOtgothicguy.. he is sooooo not hot o.o and yeah! >.>

2004-11-23 [spongemonkey]: hmmm...

2004-11-23 [Leara]: He looks like one of those hot rod type guys that talk all funny.

2004-11-23 [Grey Eyes]: ...his car wants to kill me...

2004-11-23 [~AbraKaDagger~]: *pats Cookie* it'll be ok

2004-11-23 [Shadow serpenz]: *looks around* ok

2004-11-23 [spongemonkey]: hes pretty ugly.

2004-11-23 [SerenityBug]: Looks like a dude I knew that graduated, surprisingly...

2004-11-23 [~AbraKaDagger~]: ooo.. I'm sorry

2004-11-23 [SerenityBug]: I'm not, I didn't like 'em.

2004-11-23 [SerenityBug]: Or are you sorry that I knew a guy that looked like that?

2004-11-23 [Davorah]: LOL! why do the ugly guys think their so hot?! This guy is even more unnatractive b/c he looks like a juggalo...fuckin' kill them all...why? b/c they smell like shit...well the juggalos/juggalettes that I've met do anyways...(Did ICP come out with a fragrance line that smells like rotting corpses? I wouldn't doubt it...nasty fuckers...)

2004-11-23 [SeraphicDeviltry]: i think just giving yourself a name that says you're hot is funny. i mean come on! and this guy is so not hot...

2004-11-23 [Davorah]: heh I put "I'm so pretty!" on my house page and some scum of a 'goth-child' called me a slut for it...LOL! I just laughed at them and banned them and their IP from elftown (They can never come back ^.^)

2004-11-23 [SeraphicDeviltry]: hehehe they're just jealous lol ^^

2004-11-23 [Davorah]: They're opinion doesn't matter now does it...LOL!

2004-11-23 [SeraphicDeviltry]: what matters in life anyway? *looks up dreamily at the sky* lol

2004-11-23 [~AbraKaDagger~]: I always say I'm so hot/sexy and everyone wants me/my sex in there pants.. all out of sheer humor I can assure you!!

2004-11-24 [Grey Eyes]: ...lots of people are saying lol...Whenever I look specially horrid I like to say I'm hot XD ...I see lots of fat twelve year old girls on elftown, and they pose all sexy for pictures...and they have names like "ZexAzz169" and stuff...>.> <.<

2004-11-24 [~AbraKaDagger~]: HAHAHA! yeah, I know.. quite disturbing if I may say so myself..

2004-11-24 [SeraphicDeviltry]: hey i'm hot XD :P

2004-11-25 [SerenityBug]: [gothic_hottie]....

2004-11-25 [SeraphicDeviltry]: someone who listens to rap a goth?? this girl needs bitch-slapping...

2004-11-26 [SerenityBug]: My thoughts exactly.

2004-11-26 [56fgghf9hgf]: viciousgothslave gets an A++ for idiocy. I think that having the word "goth" or "gothic" in your username pretty much guarentees that you are niether.

2004-11-26 [~AbraKaDagger~]: O.O

2004-11-26 [~AbraKaDagger~]: Holy STD Dick.. I did really see all that.. wowzers, that VGS chick is just.. just.. wow, I'm speachless, what a dumbhead!

2004-11-26 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Wait... Let me get this straight... This is a wiki where we're against fake goths, or we are such?

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